1965 250 Monza

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ftripodi
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1965 250 Monza

Postby ftripodi » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:21 am

Hi All,

Wanted to post up the latest project delivered on the weekend.
Right side.jpg

Headlight.jpg

Right engine1.jpg


Can see the potential but will need a few things to set the bike up before strip down and rebuild. If anyone can assist with anyone of the items listed below I would appreciate it.

Taillight and bracket
Chainguard
Tool boxes
Foot pegs
Ignition barrel and key

I am sure the list will grow but only had a brief look over the bike on the weekend after it was delivered.

Frank
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Re: 1965 250 Monza

Postby DewCatTea-Bob » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:29 am

____ It looks to be older than "1965" to me... What's it's motor-number ?
Is it even a 5-speeder ?


Duke-Cheers,
-Bob
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Re: 1965 250 Monza

Postby ftripodi » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:05 am

Bob the engine number is
DM250
90566
The Dm250 is on the kick start side and the other case has the 90566
From what I have been told it is a 5 speed
Would that be correct based on the engine number
Frank

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Re: 1965 250 Monza

Postby JimF » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:29 pm

The shift/damper know clearly indicates the bike to be a 4-speed, and it also has reverse. :P

Truthfully, it's a jewel and I envy you.

Jim

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Re: 1965 250 Monza

Postby ftripodi » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:02 pm

Thanks Jim
I tried and tried to get reverse but no luck.

It looks like in it's last stage of life the bike had a battery explode.

The only reference I can find to colour scheme is black and silver.

Any assistance on this bike is much appreciated
Left engine.jpg
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Re: 1965 250 Monza

Postby JimF » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:29 am

Did you say you are looking for a taillight? It appears to have an original on it...

I love this bike!

ftripodi
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Re: 1965 250 Monza

Postby ftripodi » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:23 am

the only pics i can find of like bikes have the rectangular tail light
this is why i assumed that the light was wrong.
on closer inspection the case is genuine but the lense is a PMCO

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Re: 1965 250 Monza

Postby DewCatTea-Bob » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:55 am

By: ftripodi...
" the engine number is
90566
Would that be correct based on the engine number "

____ Your eng.number does indeed indicate a 1965-model.
And the 5-speed motors went into production starting in 1963.
__ One reason I had thought that your Monza could be older, is because I had thought (as my memory has seemingly become unclear on this), that Ducati started producing the wheel-covers with fake air-scoops starting in late 1963, and yours (confusingly) appears to have the older/plain-style of speedo-drive cover (without the added [but stylish] dead-weight scoop).
Anyone-else care to chime-in on this point ? _ (Cuz it does seem to make reasonable sense that the new-style wheel-covers would become employed the same year -(1966) when they had changed-over from the 7-rib wheel-hubs to the newer 3-rib style of drum/hubs.)
__ This detail used to be quite clear to me but, I guess these last 2-decades (away from DUCATIs), has allowed me to start forgetting about such detail-changes.)
____ UPDATE: ... I guess I'm getting too old, cuz TODAY I quite clearly recall that the wheel-covers with the fake air-scoops indeed came-out on the pre-66 Duke-models matched with the SEVEN-fin hub-drums. _ (So it's just as well that no-one had yet bothered to chime-in and help jog my memory on that detail.)
Still, however,, I'm now wondering if the newer-style wheel-covers came-out & became employed in 1963, at the very-SAME production-point as when the 5-speed motors became available ?
I'd tend to doubt that though,, so the question should probably be which was FIRST to come-out, the 5-speed motors or the wheel-covers with the fake air-scoops ??
The only person I know-of who very-likely would KNOW for sure, is John White (formally of DomiRacer), as he was the only one who always knew the answers to my questions about DUKEs (back in the '70s).


Duke-Cheers,
DCT-Bob
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Re: 1965 250 Monza

Postby ftripodi » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:41 am

Right side 1.jpg

Front Wheel.jpg

Tank.jpg


Have added some more images.
On checking the front forks the only markings are C2 which gives me no clue.

Bob also the rear guard has more holes than Swiss cheese in it so i can not be sure that it is original either.

Frank
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Re: 1965 250 Monza

Postby DewCatTea-Bob » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:22 am

" the only pics i can find of like bikes have the rectangular tail light
this is why i assumed that the light was wrong. "

____ The Duke-models with that non-round style tail-light & large plate display-bracket, are of-course stock but rather of the non-USA versions.
Your tail-light LOOKS like the USA-version, however it may not actually be stock, since it's plate-bracket is certainly not factory-original/stock !


" Have added some more images. "

____ I now see that the left-side of your front-wheel has a wheel-cover with the fake air-scoops (as expected for a '65-model) ! ... This confirms that the wheel-cover on the right-side is not stock (and probably from an older 4-speed Duke-model).


" the rear guard has more holes than Swiss cheese in it so i can not be sure that it is original either. "

____ It's definitely not stock for a '65-Monza.


Dukaddy-DUKEs,
-Bob
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