96 Ducati's offered at RM Auctions Monaco

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96 Ducati's offered at RM Auctions Monaco

Postby Octane » Mon May 21, 2012 11:47 am


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Re: 96 Ducati's offered at RM Auctions Monaco

Postby Ventodue » Mon May 21, 2012 5:27 pm

Thanks for posting that. Interesting ...

On the face of it, it looks like the 'Best Buys' from the Taglioni era were the Pantahs:

(146) 1981 600SL Pantah: $2,651.51
(171) 1983 500SL Pantah: $3,030.30

And this wasn't so bad, if you can accept the styling :) (ignore the wrong year):
(165) 1977 900 S2: $5,303.03

I notice a couple of Parallel Twins did ok:
(129) 1983 GTV 500: $3,030.30
(194) 1980 350 Sport Desmo: $4,166.66

While this seems absurd:
(192) 1971 750GT: $49,242.38

Especially when compared with:
(179) 1999 748 Biposto: $3,787.88
(120) 2000 996 Biposto: $5,151.51
(196) 1993 900 Superlight: $5,303.03
(143) 1996 916 Biposto: $5,303.03
(130) 1991 851: $9,848.48

Obviously - and what else would you expect? - an auction more for collectors than riders!

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Re: 96 Ducati's offered at RM Auctions Monaco

Postby Ventodue » Mon May 21, 2012 6:12 pm

Wow! Just seen what this made:

(198) 1966 50 Sport SL1: $13,636.35

Now, I think they're great .. but $13,636.35 (plus, presumably, buyer's premium) ?!

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Re: 96 Ducati's offered at RM Auctions Monaco

Postby Eldert » Mon May 21, 2012 6:21 pm

you have to add 17% commission for RM and then add 20 % taxes over the combined amount

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Re: 96 Ducati's offered at RM Auctions Monaco

Postby Ventodue » Mon May 21, 2012 7:52 pm

Eldert wrote:you have to add 17% commission for RM and then add 20 % taxes over the combined amount

Ow! That means someone - apparently - paid over $69,000 for a 750 GT :o :o

That's just ... insane! Or am I missing something here?

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Re: 96 Ducati's offered at RM Auctions Monaco

Postby Octane » Tue May 22, 2012 12:59 am

I must have missed that GT!!

My dad also has a 71' 750 GT and he's always telling me it's worth $35K+ which I was highly sceptical of because decent bikes are going for sub-20K here in Australia. However, I believe the first 500 of the 71models were pre-production with hand cast engine, and I know dads is one of these first 500. So that might explain the high price of the RM bike?

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Re: 96 Ducati's offered at RM Auctions Monaco

Postby ajleone » Tue May 22, 2012 1:25 am

The prices posted included the buyers premium and fees. No VAT on the bikes since they more tha 10 years old. I know as I was there and bought 3 bikes.

Also, do not get too hung up on the GT750 and 50 SL1 prices. There were a couple of folks battling it out who really wanted the bikes and did not care about the actual worth, I spoke to both after the auction and each needed their bikes and had the means to pay whatever it took.
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Re: 96 Ducati's offered at RM Auctions Monaco

Postby Ventodue » Tue May 22, 2012 7:50 am

ajleone wrote:The prices posted included the buyers premium and fees. No VAT on the bikes since they more tha 10 years old.

Ah, right - thanks for clearing that up, Tony.

And p.s: Thanks for posting your videos, too - very good.

ajleone wrote:I know as I was there and bought 3 bikes.

Oh go on, don't tease us! Spill the beans! What d'ya get? We won't tell ...
Did you notice the Pantahs, btw? Any apparent reason why they went cheap?

ajleone wrote:Also, do not get too hung up on the GT750 and 50 SL1 prices. There were a couple of folks battling it out who really wanted the bikes and did not care about the actual worth ...

Yep, always the case in auctions - only needs two equally furious bidders :D
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Re: 96 Ducati's offered at RM Auctions Monaco

Postby Ventodue » Tue May 22, 2012 7:54 am

Octane wrote: However, I believe the first 500 of the 71models were pre-production with hand cast engine. So that might explain the high price of the RM bike?

Ah, fair point. That explains the price a little bit, plus Tony's observation of two equally determined bidders. Better tell you're Dad to quit riding and start polishing ...

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Re: 96 Ducati's offered at RM Auctions Monaco

Postby ajleone » Wed May 23, 2012 12:39 am

Good question on why some of the bikes went so cheap - I think they really did not have the right audience. I was looking at some of the 350 Pantahs myself and now wish I had bought 2 that went for $1000 or less. I got an 85 sport and 100 sport - I will post pics when they actually arrive here in USA.

I suspect it will be a long time before we ever see an auction like that again.
Tony


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