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Duccout
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Vibration

Postby Duccout » Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:02 pm

Here is a talking point: vibration. I have two Mototrans singles, a 250 Strada and a 350 Forza, and both are very smooth, certainly smoother than Bologna singles. I can think of two possible reasons for this: did Mototrans use a different balance factor to Bologna? Or, is it because both my bikes use the parallel twin frame, and maybe this gives different harmonics to the standard singles frame?

The vibration frequency seems to be lower than Bologna bikes, and very similar to that of Velocette singles, with the engines being very smooth at lower revs and quite rough at higher revs, but not tingly like the Bologna bikes.

Any thoughts?


Cheers,

Colin

Jordan
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Re: Vibration

Postby Jordan » Mon Apr 03, 2023 1:19 pm

Check the engine mounting bolts for tightness.

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Re: Vibration

Postby IanHood » Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:01 pm

Well, my 450 is as smooth as silk (and if you believe that...) :lol:

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Re: Vibration

Postby Ventodue » Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:52 pm

Jon P. might well have some good thoughts on this, he being well familiar with the products of both factories ...

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Re: Vibration

Postby Duccout » Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:56 pm

I suppose a good comparison would be between say, a Vento or Road and a Forza, to see if the frame makes any difference.

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Re: Vibration

Postby Jordan » Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:25 pm

Just for fun, loosen the engine mounting fasteners a bit, to really experience 450 vibration.

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Re: Vibration

Postby IanHood » Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:05 pm

My fingers (and bollocks) are tingling quite enough already thank you

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Re: Vibration

Postby Jordan » Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:22 pm

Once on my 450 I was riding along, when vibration rapidly became severe.
I stopped to see what might have caused it, and there it was - one of the long rear mounting bolts was sticking out by some inches, having lost its nut.
Check the simple things first.

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Re: Vibration

Postby Duccout » Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:19 am

You'd pay good money for medical treatment like that! Now I know why old guys ride Duc singles - it is a treatment for impotence. As for bolts, I remember my Sebring developing excessive vibration and found the rear engine bolts loose, which is why I check them for tightness regularly. I have always wondered why Ducati never used a head steady when all the British singles did, but I am sure that if it had made a difference Ducati would have tried it.


Cheers,

Colin

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Re: Vibration

Postby blethermaskite » Wed Apr 05, 2023 12:56 pm

Ah Ha! I bought a sebring based race bike many years ago and guess what? it had a head steady.......removing this removed about 50% of the engine vibration :lol: so I suspect not a great mod.
Cheers George


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