Scrambler Retrospective

[Scrambler]

Tod Rafferty wrote up a nice article for MotorSports Media about the new Ducati Scrambler and the ties to the original Scrambler. Points out the reason we all love them.
Check it out at...........
http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/ ... ctive.html

Mike Mc

[Rocla]

Hello,

Interesting.

There will be a tsunami of articles and events like this one because of the launch of the new one... It is marketing. But except for the body style, and a part of the spirit, the new Scrambler is very far away the genuine one. For me, the unique heir is the Borile, because it keeps the whole spirit (which is a mixture of aesthetic, agility, low weight, high clearence, etc... ). Isn't it?

[amartina75]

Hello,

Interesting.

There will be a tsunami of articles and events like this one because of the launch of the new one... It is marketing. But except for the body style, and a part of the spirit, the new Scrambler is very far away the genuine one. For me, the unique heir is the Borile, because it keeps the whole spirit (which is a mixture of aesthetic, agility, low weight, high clearence, etc... ). Isn't it?

I was unaware of the Borile Scrambler until now. It looks like Ducati is or has already succeeded in killing it. I think they should be ashamed of themselves for what they are doing. But huge corporations and lawyers don't have much of a conscience do they. The Borile Scrambler is what Ducati should have made, they clearly don't get what made the originals popular. The Scrambler they came out with is just a dressed up monster. I like the monsters, the older ones that look like motorcycles still. The new ones are ugly, IMO.
http://touch.cycleworld.com/all/92436#1
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JX-Z4-1d0pw
http://m.autoevolution.com/borile-450-scrambler-taken-down-by-court-decision-after-ducati-sues-90475.html
http://borile.it/newsletter/?lang=en

[tobydmv]

The super mono scrambler would be brilliant, but I guess its not to be....I wonder if there is a higher build cost for the super mono engine that prevented them from going that direction. I read the Super Mono used some kind of counterweight or rotor in place of the second piston and rod to smooth out the single pulses. Maybe the added cost of that would make the new scrambler too expensive. Its a shame and i've always fancied one.

[Eldert]

just build your own supermono scrambler

here a picture of my latest project :



Eldert

[SP3]

I agree that Ducati lost the plot with the new Scrambler. But, it was NEVER going to have a single cylinder engine in it. They missed their opportunity to cash in on the Supermono itself (and the engine in other models) long (long) ago. Remember, the last year for them was '95. That's 20 years ago for the math challenged.

Regarding the internals, it didn't use a 'rotor' to quell vibrations, it used a standard connecting rod with the small end attached to a pivoting link that was weighted to mimic the missing piston. The small end also lived in its normal relative position. Again, to mimic it original movement.

Here's the best photo I could find to show all the workings.

[Bevel bob]

The gears are high in the case, splash lubrication? Did the gears last?, this design can give problems if the motor is left unused for long periods.

[Nick]

Eldert, please keep us updated. A 350 NC or 450 motard-style machine will be epic!

[SP3]

The gears are high in the case, splash lubrication? Did the gears last?, this design can give problems if the motor is left unused for long periods.

All the internals are in the same locations as the Desmoquattro twin it is based on. Since the DQ's (and all the air-cooled engines to this day) are Pantah based themselves, if there was a problem, it would have been common to essentially every Ducati built over the last three decades or so.

[graeme]

Hello Eldert,
Nice,
More pictures please?

Graeme