oil pump/timing cover 250 monza question

[DewCatTea-Bob]

" no i really dont have any of the stuff you are referencing.. i will have to hit the store to pick up the wood.. "

____ You'd need more than just a 2-by-8in. x 2ft. piece of tuff wood! ...
You'd also need a saw to cut it for the needed pieces, and a drill to make five 1/4" holes & two 5/16ths" holes.
____ I'm thinking that it's really not worth your trouble to split the main-cases without next having a good DUCATI-mechanic go thru everything that could then be thoroughly checked-out.
I suggest that you flush-out the inside and see what comes-out, and then decide what to do next, from that point.
You could dump some fuel-oil into the cyl.neck openning and then let it drain-out from the motor-oil drain-hole onto some white paper-towels (supported by a screen, in a pan)...
If it comes-out clean, then I'd bet the rest of the internals are good-to-go.
However, chances are that you'll get some crud of some sort that will inspire doing the flush-job several times.
__ If it were mine, I'd next put the whole motor together and run it, before deciding that the main-cases may really need to be split !


Hopeful-Cheers,
-Bob

[miken5678]

noted.. i have the power tools just not the lumber..

I thought about your idea when i first got the bike but the only wiring i have is some sort of original ducati labeled box that was under the seat and appears broken.. other than that without the oil pump and points I guessed going the way of pulling the motor apart would give me a decent ideas as if there are any real issues with the crank it would most likely be time for me to move on to finding another bike/motor...

it is obvious after i got off most of the sealant that the cluctch side cover lines up flush on the bottom but the top overhangs quite a bit which might be why they chose to use all the goop.. check the photos..

[DewCatTea-Bob]

" i have the power tools just not the lumber.. "

____ Then you'd also need a half dozen screws to go with.


" the cluctch side cover lines up flush on the bottom but the top overhangs quite a bit which might be why they chose to use all the goop.."

____ While I'm not really aware of any good reason for splitting the main-cases, it might be worth a look-see to check-out why somebody had the primary-cover off.
If you wish to go-ahead & remove that cover, then here's a good way how to do so...
__ After removal of all the primary-cover's screws and with the clutch inspection-cover off, and the crankshaft plug-cap removed,,
you can then place a suitably sized wood-peg or 6-sided nut into the plug-cap's hole & flatly up-against the end of the crankshaft, and then screw the plug-cap (at least one full turn) back into it's place.
Then while pulling (with a hooked finger through the inspection-openning) on the cover, nearest towards the starter-shaft,, concurrently tighten the plug-cap until the cover is forced loose from it's seal to the main-case. _ Then (with it's seal completely broken-loose all the way around), just work the cover the rest of the way off from the starter-shaft.
And that's all there should be to 'pulling' the primary-cover.


DUCATIly,
-Bob

[miken5678]

Out of curiosity as I am at work and close to a sears what size hex is that on the clutch cover?

[DewCatTea-Bob]

" what size hex is that on the clutch cover? "

____ The stock DUKE tool-kits came with a 15mm allen-head on the tip-end of a sparkplug-socket-wrench, (originally intended for the [old-style] oil-filter/drain plug-head), which will also fit that crankshaft plug-cap.


DUKE-Cheers,
-Bob

[miken5678]

thanks for the quick response. will be picking this up today and see where i can get with your instructions.. i couldnt get all the mess of seeds or whatever it was inside of it so I am still curious if something resides inside..

as far as the actual cover not lining up with the engine case itself is this a possible issue is someone tries to use the wrong motor case? or were they just easy to bend/distort? What gets me is the bolt holes line up however the casing doesnt..

comming back and replying to my own comment.. i dont see anyone that makes a 15mm locally.. dare I ask is using a 5/8 forbidden? The bolt is messed up and I would end up replacing it however I dont want to mux up the other one..

[DewCatTea-Bob]

" as far as the actual cover not lining up with the engine case itself is this a possible issue is someone tries to use the wrong motor case? "

____NO, all narrow-case primary-covers will 'FIT', (but that's not to also claim that they will all 'WORK'), on the N.C-maincase . _ However the mismatch of the upper surfaces is usually not quite as far-off as you claim for your's.


DUKE-Cheers,
-Bob

[miken5678]

had a pain in the rear finding someone that had a 15mm hex.. ended up ordering one on ebay.. seems most make 10 12 14 and 17... bummer

the only reason i noted the case height difference is because of the usage of all the black goop and in some places its just about the thickness of a dime.. you can check the photos in the other thread.. hard to capture it easily

[DewCatTea-Bob]

" had a pain in the rear finding someone that had a 15mm hex.. ended up ordering one on ebay.. "

____ Guess I should've pointed-out that ya could just use an extra thick 15mm-nut and a 15mm socket on it !
__ Can you post a link to the hex-tool that you found on eBay ? _ (I think 'bsanut' sells them.)


Cheers,
-Bob

[bettyann]

MIKEN
If you need a 15mm allen wrench,in a pinch take a long 15mm bolt put the head in the hex plug and clamp a pare of vice grips on the 15mm bolt, turn out plug just like a regular allen wrench!