By: Capt.Paul...
" My 63'blue scr has a monza-sebring type battery box, "
____ I believe that the fender-bracket/(battery-support)- plate was shortened (by 1965) to create more room for a larger 19-inch rear-tire.
____ Capt.Paul, I assume that your "63" 250Scr has title-papers to indicate that it's year is 1963, is that correct?
__ Is yours a 4 or 5 speed model ?
Is it's motor-number much newer than Ian's #83543 ?
DUKE-Cheers,
-Bob
Identifying Ducati Single
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Re: Identifying Ducati Scrambler Model Year
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Re: Identifying Ducati Single
Hi,
Im told by the PO that he thinks the original color may have been blue. Would that help pin down the year and/or model?
Does anyone have any good photographs of 62-62 250 scrambler that I could have a copy of? I'm trying to collect pictures, books etc to do my research.
I'm thinking the bike may be more likely to be riden if I make it either a road/scrambler, or a mild cafe recer. Whatever way It'll be done in period and thats why I'm collecting information.
It think this will look good next to my '09 696 Monster!
If anyone has anything they could send my email address is: ianashdown@pacific-composites.net
Thanks,
Ian
Im told by the PO that he thinks the original color may have been blue. Would that help pin down the year and/or model?
Does anyone have any good photographs of 62-62 250 scrambler that I could have a copy of? I'm trying to collect pictures, books etc to do my research.
I'm thinking the bike may be more likely to be riden if I make it either a road/scrambler, or a mild cafe recer. Whatever way It'll be done in period and thats why I'm collecting information.
It think this will look good next to my '09 696 Monster!
If anyone has anything they could send my email address is: ianashdown@pacific-composites.net
Thanks,
Ian
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Picture of the original 250SCR / Motocross model
" Does anyone have any good photographs of 62-62 250 scrambler that I could have a copy of? "
____ This one may have to do for you, since they've become very rare.
I also have an old mag.ad (somewhere) showing this same Scr.model from the other side.
Hopeful-Cheers,
-Bob
____ This one may have to do for you, since they've become very rare.
I also have an old mag.ad (somewhere) showing this same Scr.model from the other side.
Hopeful-Cheers,
-Bob
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Re: Identifying Ducati Single
What's up with the rear struts (In Bob's photo), did they come like that, is it for a special use of some kind?
Don't know if this would be of any help as it's a '65. Great link in any case, it's the whole '65 general catalog.
http://www.philaphoto.com/imageLibrary/ ... 083&pos=26
Bill
Don't know if this would be of any help as it's a '65. Great link in any case, it's the whole '65 general catalog.
http://www.philaphoto.com/imageLibrary/ ... 083&pos=26
Bill
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Re: Identifying Ducati Single
It is hard to tell with certainty, but in Ian's photo that shows the seat and rear frame loop, his looks straight. In Bobs photo it appears to have an upward curve. I know that in my 69 the upward bend at the end of this loop is one of the first thing people look at to determine mk3 or scrambler.
Mike
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Scrambler Frame-tubing Rear-loop
" but in Ian's photo that shows the seat and rear frame loop, his looks straight. In Bobs photo it appears to have an upward curve.
____ It would be best to see Ian's from the same angle but, as seen in his pic.view, I'm really not able to tell for certain whether his rear-loop is completely horizontally-flat (like a Monza-type's level loop-tube), or not.
His APPEARS as if it's not raised-up (same as a level-type rear-loop), possibly due to his rear-shocks being less tall than the (optional)- struts installed on the featured 4-speed Scrambler.
__ Hopefully Capt.Paul will help further sort-out this matter.
Hopeful-Cheers,
-Bob
____ It would be best to see Ian's from the same angle but, as seen in his pic.view, I'm really not able to tell for certain whether his rear-loop is completely horizontally-flat (like a Monza-type's level loop-tube), or not.
His APPEARS as if it's not raised-up (same as a level-type rear-loop), possibly due to his rear-shocks being less tall than the (optional)- struts installed on the featured 4-speed Scrambler.
__ Hopefully Capt.Paul will help further sort-out this matter.
Hopeful-Cheers,
-Bob
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Re: Identifying Ducati Single
Hi,
Here are the only other shots I have that show the rear frame loop. Looks straight to me. What does this imply?
Thanks for all the info, it's very helpful indeed!
Ian
Here are the only other shots I have that show the rear frame loop. Looks straight to me. What does this imply?
Thanks for all the info, it's very helpful indeed!
Ian
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Re: Identifying Ducati Single
" Here are the only other shots I have that show the rear frame loop. Looks straight to me. What does this imply? "
____ Well Ian, I guess it seems we ought to see a better view-shot... one from an angle that's level with the rear-loop, and also with the seat preferably removed.
__ Now that we can see a pic.view of your entire Duke-Scrambler, it looks to be not missing all so many parts. _ Do you really not have any other parts for it other than what's included with it, as it's pictured in your last photo ? ...
__ The most expensive -(about 250$) obtainable part would then be an original-type 27mm-SSI -(not the exact-same newer-type 27SSIs, as stock on much-later 250-Scramblers!).
But I myself believe that most anything else suitable, (like a 27mm-Amal from a 250-Mototrans or a Brit.250), would make a more sensible carburetor purchase.
__ The original-type tail-light would be next to impossible to fine, and thus if you did fine one, then IT would certainly cost you the most !
__ As for an exhaust-pipe, if you found an original-piece, it would likely need re-chroming. _ Fortunately, there are reproduction-parts of the sort to be more easily found these days !
Here's a link to such as the ex.pipe you're missing...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-Duca ... 25600e40c0
Hopeful-Cheers,
-Bob
____ Well Ian, I guess it seems we ought to see a better view-shot... one from an angle that's level with the rear-loop, and also with the seat preferably removed.
__ Now that we can see a pic.view of your entire Duke-Scrambler, it looks to be not missing all so many parts. _ Do you really not have any other parts for it other than what's included with it, as it's pictured in your last photo ? ...
__ The most expensive -(about 250$) obtainable part would then be an original-type 27mm-SSI -(not the exact-same newer-type 27SSIs, as stock on much-later 250-Scramblers!).
But I myself believe that most anything else suitable, (like a 27mm-Amal from a 250-Mototrans or a Brit.250), would make a more sensible carburetor purchase.
__ The original-type tail-light would be next to impossible to fine, and thus if you did fine one, then IT would certainly cost you the most !
__ As for an exhaust-pipe, if you found an original-piece, it would likely need re-chroming. _ Fortunately, there are reproduction-parts of the sort to be more easily found these days !
Here's a link to such as the ex.pipe you're missing...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-Duca ... 25600e40c0
Hopeful-Cheers,
-Bob
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Re: Identifying Ducati Single
ianashdown wrote:Hi,
Here are the only other shots I have that show the rear frame loop. Looks straight to me. What does this imply?
Thanks for all the info, it's very helpful indeed!
Ian
Hi Ian
I'm quite far from expert status, but from my limited readings a curved tail loop indicates a scrambler and a straight loop indicates a road frame. Though I think I've seen some early racers with up curved loop, I don't think I've seen a scrambler with a straight one.
My 69 450 is probably a bitsa scrambler made into a road bike, though the mk3 tool box bosses appear to be factory installed to me, so who knows. Also there are plenty of stories about mixing up things at the end of a production run to get a few more Ducks on the road.
Regards,
Mike
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Re: Identifying Ducati Single
Interesting to see the solid struts (period photo) replacing the rear shocks, I assume that this was for some American smooth dirt track racing similar to our speedway ,I cant imagine any other use unless ice racing.
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