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Another part to ID

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:10 am
by cooperplace
hub.possibly.disc.wheel.jpg

Re: Another part to ID

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:27 am
by Duccout
More info needed! Vento front?

Re: Another part to ID

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:26 am
by cooperplace
It's got disc mounting bolts on both sides, but it's a wire-spoked wheel, unlike any I've seen on a Vento.

Re: Another part to ID

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:02 am
by A.I.M
I guess there are no stampings on the rim or hub ? Could be from a Forza ? The rim profile looks like an Akront. Disc would be fitted on the left, speedo drive on the right?

Re: Another part to ID

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:11 pm
by cooperplace
The rim is stamped:

Borrani -WM- 2/1.85-18/ 3.6 RECORD -01-4402 Made in Italy.

It's a spindly thing. Both hubs on the Vento are much more solid than this. It's the same on both sides, with a 6-bolt mounting. I can't see any markings on the hub.

Re: Another part to ID

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:08 pm
by Duccout
Seems to be Italian then..... I wonder if it could be from a two-stroke Moto-Guzzi or similar?

Cheers,

Colin

Re: Another part to ID

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:09 pm
by Ventodue
Duccout wrote:Seems to be Italian then..... I wonder if it could be from a two-stroke Moto-Guzzi or similar?

You could be on to something there, Colin. (Edit: except it seems the Guzzi TS used a single disc ...).

TS.jpg

In the meanwhile, a few thoughts, for what they're worth:

1. As far as I am aware, no Italian Ducati single used the combination of a Borrani WM2 18" front wheel + wires + twin discs. So it ain't from one of them.

2. Ditto for the Barcelona bikes (which in addition, at least in the case of my Vento, used 5, not 6, bolt discs). So it ain't from one of them.

3. The first 18" Borrani + wires + twin discs was the 750SS of 1973. But this was a WM3 wheel, not a WM2/1; and it's number is well known - 4777. So it ain't that.

4. Neither the 750 Sport or the 750 GT got twin discs. So nothing there.

5. The 860 GT did, in 1975. But it used WM3 steel Radaellis, not aluminium WM2 Boranis. So no match there.

Re: Another part to ID

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:24 pm
by blethermaskite
I don't think that,s Italian, think its Japanese, and a wheel just built up from parts.......hub might be Yamaha xs650?? Cheers George

Re: Another part to ID

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:17 pm
by cooperplace
I think you're right, thank you.

Re: Another part to ID

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:55 pm
by Ventodue
blethermaskite wrote:I don't think that,s Italian, think its Japanese, and a wheel just built up from parts.......hub might be Yamaha xs650?? Cheers George

A good thought, George. We should not assume that rim and hub always went together ...

In addition, I have a note from Eldert that '4402' was, indeed a Borrani code for a rim for "a Ducati single" - but without any further info as to which it might have been.