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Kickback

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 3:39 pm
by frankfast
Looking for help on starting. Bike is kicking back at the highest point of the kick starter. That's the only time it seems to ignite. I'm getting good spark and I've timed the points plate numerous times. I've also tried multiple positions on the points plate to no avail. Timing the ignition. the points plate is adjusted almost as far as it will go clockwise, about 8 degrees BTDC. I've retarded the timing some and got less kickback but still won't start. I'm suspicious that it's starving for fuel because when pulling the plug it doesn't seem wet. I cleaned all the jets in the carb and they are open. Spraying starter fluid through the carb didn't help either. Still can't tell whether the problem is timing or lack of fuel. Compression is good. Bike hasn't been started in a couple of years. It's a 350 Scrambler with a square slide carb 29mm.

Re: Kickback

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 4:28 pm
by Duccout
Could the advance retard mechanism be jammed?

Re: Kickback

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 5:05 pm
by Ventodue
Hi Frank

Just describe your starting procedure for us, please ....

You do have a valve lifter, I believe?

Ciao

Craig

Re: Kickback

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 5:29 pm
by frankfast
Unfortunately, the compression relief is not working due to missing parts. I've checked the enricher on the carb and it is clear. I kick the bike after bringing it up on the compression stroke. That's when I get the kickback. Retarding the timing eliminates that but still won't start. I haven't checked the advance mechanism.

Re: Kickback

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 6:21 pm
by ranton_rambler
Does it run with a push/bump start?

Re: Kickback

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 6:26 pm
by frankfast
Tried that once but didn't get a good push because i was by myself. Have to try it with some help.

Re: Kickback

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:24 pm
by ducwiz
is it possible you timed the ignition at the wrong TDC point? The rotate the AAU by 180°, and I suppose the bike will run.

Hans

Re: Kickback

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:49 pm
by frankfast
No, I made sure I was on the compression stroke when I set the timing. After I timed it the first time I thought that may have been the case but I checked it again and it was correct.

Re: Kickback

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 11:03 pm
by Jordan
frankfast wrote: I kick the bike after bringing it up on the compression stroke. That's when I get the kickback.


Do you go over top dead centre, before letting the kickstart lever come back to the top for a start attempt?

Re: Kickback

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 12:53 am
by frankfast
When the bike kicks back, I'm assuming that it's firing as I've timed it 8 degrees BTDC. After it kicks the kick stater immediately goes down as does the piston on the power stroke.