Bike hesitating- I'm about to throw it in the lake. NEED HELP
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:28 pm
I'm so frustrated I'm about to throw the bike in the river and go buy a bowling ball. I have a widecase 350 race bike. Here are the particulars:
Misano head. Piper 277 cam. 38mm Mikuni (45 idle, 2.5 slide, 6DH3 needle. 166P8 needle jet. 250 main. 0.5 air jet.) Electrex ignition for dual spark plug.
I built this bike up over the Winter and have raced it four times this season. For all four race weekends I've had the same issue. The bike pulls well down low and in lower gears (first and second) it will pull to about redline. But in 4th and 5th gears anything over 75% throttle and the bike will pop and hesitate. Rolling beyond 75% throttle results in the bike bogging and having zero power. I thought it was the carb jetting and went leaner on the main. No change. Richer on the main and no change. I've moved the needle up and down with no change. Tried a leaner needle and a richer needle. Tried a richer needle jet. None of it mattered. Then I thought maybe the ignition box was bad and replaced with a Saschse ignition. No change in problems. Then I suspected perhaps my exhaust was too long. Welded up a new exhaust (1.5" diameter pipe, 620mm long, paired with a 13" reverse meg). Again, no change. Then I pulled the head to see if I had possibly a bent valve. Lapped in the valves and used blue engineers dye and got a solid transfer from valve to valve seat. Pulled the valves and inspected on a granite surface plate. All checks out.
I have straight cut upper and lower bevel gears and the timing dots on the lower bevel gears appear one tooth off. According to the specs on the cam I should be at 54 degrees BTDC with the valves at running clearance (about 5 thou) and 20 thou lift. If I use the timing dots I'm at about 74 degrees BTDC. Rotating the lower bevel gear one tooth gets me almost spot on 54 degrees (again with running clearance and 20 thou lift). I can' t imagine the bike would even run with a 20 degree difference in valve timing but who knows. But even if it did would it behave like the bike is??
Like I said before, I'm so frustrated that I am losing sleep. I have Barber in early October so I have a little bit of time to figure this out but I'm at my wits end on what it could be. Two new Mikuni carbs. Two new ignition systems. Two different exhausts. Countless jet swaps.
The one constant variable in all this is me so I'm all ears if you think I'm doing something wrong.
Misano head. Piper 277 cam. 38mm Mikuni (45 idle, 2.5 slide, 6DH3 needle. 166P8 needle jet. 250 main. 0.5 air jet.) Electrex ignition for dual spark plug.
I built this bike up over the Winter and have raced it four times this season. For all four race weekends I've had the same issue. The bike pulls well down low and in lower gears (first and second) it will pull to about redline. But in 4th and 5th gears anything over 75% throttle and the bike will pop and hesitate. Rolling beyond 75% throttle results in the bike bogging and having zero power. I thought it was the carb jetting and went leaner on the main. No change. Richer on the main and no change. I've moved the needle up and down with no change. Tried a leaner needle and a richer needle. Tried a richer needle jet. None of it mattered. Then I thought maybe the ignition box was bad and replaced with a Saschse ignition. No change in problems. Then I suspected perhaps my exhaust was too long. Welded up a new exhaust (1.5" diameter pipe, 620mm long, paired with a 13" reverse meg). Again, no change. Then I pulled the head to see if I had possibly a bent valve. Lapped in the valves and used blue engineers dye and got a solid transfer from valve to valve seat. Pulled the valves and inspected on a granite surface plate. All checks out.
I have straight cut upper and lower bevel gears and the timing dots on the lower bevel gears appear one tooth off. According to the specs on the cam I should be at 54 degrees BTDC with the valves at running clearance (about 5 thou) and 20 thou lift. If I use the timing dots I'm at about 74 degrees BTDC. Rotating the lower bevel gear one tooth gets me almost spot on 54 degrees (again with running clearance and 20 thou lift). I can' t imagine the bike would even run with a 20 degree difference in valve timing but who knows. But even if it did would it behave like the bike is??
Like I said before, I'm so frustrated that I am losing sleep. I have Barber in early October so I have a little bit of time to figure this out but I'm at my wits end on what it could be. Two new Mikuni carbs. Two new ignition systems. Two different exhausts. Countless jet swaps.
The one constant variable in all this is me so I'm all ears if you think I'm doing something wrong.