Horn Reconditioning

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gregwils
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Horn Reconditioning

Postby gregwils » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:36 pm

I had planned to separate my horn grill which is pretty rusty from the diaphragm to sand and rechrome, but that sucker doesn't want to let go. Is it possible to separate or does is need to go to some type of horn shop? Thanks.

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Re: Horn Reconditioning

Postby gregwils » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:31 am

I got the diaphragm separated from the cover. It was just a little stubborn after 45 years. It seems to have good continuity, so hope just test and rechrome the grill. Also for anyone interested, I found a write up on an old Bosch horn in an early Porsche, it's pretty close to the CEV. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/469086-early-bosch-horn-restoration.html
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Greg W
1965 Ducati Monza
1966 Ducati Monza (Project)
1966 Ducati Monza Jr
1986 Porsche 911 Carrera
Pittsburgh, PA USA

Ventodue
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Re: Horn Reconditioning

Postby Ventodue » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:15 am

Thanks for posting this. As the write-up says, horns are pretty simple and therefore easy to repair, but ...

I have never been able to find replacement aluminum rivets. And I don't like using self-tappers. If you manage to get some, please say where from - or even better, buy a bunch and I'll buy a few dozen from you!

Cheers

Craig

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Re: Horn Reconditioning

Postby gregwils » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:09 pm

Here is the photo I meant to share. The metal is solid despite deteriorating around the screw holes. The paper gaskets were incredibly thin and probably did more to hold moisture than offer any other protection.

PS - Craig - Did you read the Porsche thread, the author suggested aluminum rivets were available at Grainger. I'm not sure if those were the self-tapping type that you did not want.

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1965 Ducati Monza
1966 Ducati Monza (Project)
1966 Ducati Monza Jr
1986 Porsche 911 Carrera
Pittsburgh, PA USA

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Re: Horn Reconditioning

Postby Ventodue » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:53 pm

gregwils wrote:<snip> Craig - Did you read the Porsche thread, the author suggested aluminum rivets were available at Grainger.

Yep, Greg - thanks for that. I did see it, and subsequently found the rivets on the Grainger site. Have to see if they'll ship to me here in France ...

Cheers

Craig

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Re: Horn Reconditioning

Postby gregwils » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:00 pm

Let me know if they don't, I could order them and forward to you. My services are free, but can't promise prompt service. ;)
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Re: Horn Reconditioning

Postby ajleone » Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:36 pm

Ok, dumb question - is the paper gasket required ? If so why and can just a piece of kraft/sjipping paper suffice as a replacement ? Thanks.
Tony

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Re: Horn Reconditioning

Postby Ventodue » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:12 pm

gregwils wrote:Let me know if they don't, I could order them and forward to you. My services are free, but can't promise prompt service. ;)

Thanks Greg. I'll give them a go and see what happens. The important thing is that at least I now know the rivets exist, and are (theoretically) available ...

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Re: Horn Reconditioning

Postby Ventodue » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:14 pm

ajleone wrote:Ok, dumb question - is the paper gasket required ? If so why and can just a piece of kraft/sjipping paper suffice as a replacement ? Thanks.
Tony

I guess the gasket is there to stop the very thing it doesn't stop :o . Water getting in and corroding the points.

Last time I fixed one, I just used a bit of gasket paper. Next time, I think I'll follow the line of the guy on the Porsche forum - get all modern and use silicone ;)


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