Veglia revcounter bracket

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Re: Veglia revcounter bracket

Postby blethermaskite » Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:37 pm

Jeez! any sheet metal worker could make one of these for £20.
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Re: Veglia revcounter bracket

Postby themoudie » Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:02 pm

The metal is tuppence ha'penny! The manual skill to either beat it out or to make the press dies is where the cost lies and people won't do anything commercialy for much under £50-00 an hour these days.

Personally, I'd find a bit of 18 guage scrap mild steel and give it a try, with tin snips, or a Dremel cutting disc, some home made dollies, sand bag and a ¼ lb and ½ lb ball pein hammer and expect to take at least 2 days at it faffing about. Alternatively, forget the fancy curved bit and just make up a bent bracket and give it a smooth finish. ;)

Happy panel beating or fighting Royal Mail International mystery "pass the parcel" games! ;)

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Re: Veglia revcounter bracket

Postby LaceyDucati » Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:18 pm

Bill is right. I'm afraid time is money, the tooling for Joe's bracket would have been expensive/time consuming and someone will be claiming that back, either him or whoever manufactures them. Material cost will be nothing, but even a simple home made bracket will take hours (by hand) to produce a nicely finished item. A similar item to Joe's will take tools and equipment, maybe tooling as well and time to produce. Of course for many this is a hobby and time is "free" and all part of the fun.

If the brackets were made in the UK in small numbers as these probably are, they would be either far more expensive, rough as the "proverbial", made by a "hobbyist" who works for low/no money (and pays no tax!) or by a business aiming to go bust! Nobody really gets rich making/sourcing parts for old Ducati's :?

I enjoy a comfortable and mostly satisfying lifestyle selling, making and procuring Bevel Ducati parts but my yearly income, lack of work pension, etc, wouldn't stack up that well against the many dissatisfied workers in the UK at present.

I would buy Joe's bracket direct ( avoiding the leech's cut ) or get the tools out or persuade someone else too :)

It's a fine line with some products and as a supplier myself I do ponder whether some products I sell will ever cover the cost of manufacture, let alone make me a profit. Yes the individual part makes a theoretical profit, but I may well just find myself with just more parts to be buried with :-)

Just an insight/prospective from someone in the business.....Who worked all weekend trying to make things happen :?

Regards all Nigel

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Re: Veglia revcounter bracket

Postby LaceyDucati » Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:38 pm

Bill

Don't get me started on "Royal" mail :evil: all the strikes and now the latest hack is making business rather problematic. I pay £1000 a year for a collection....or not over the last few months! Not to mention the "dippy" "new" post lad who did collect Friday and took away my FEDEX delivery, probably never to be seen again!

A) Why did the FEDEX guy put it on top of my obvious parcel collections.
B) Why did the Postie not check what he was taking away!
C) Will anyone at the depot notice and give a .......

The strikes may well have good reason but I do despair at the modern UK, time for a drink :D

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Re: Veglia revcounter bracket

Postby Duccout » Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:54 pm

Dave, is originality important, or do you just want a bracket to hold the rev-counter? I ask because years ago, when I had my Velocette, I bought a pair of simple universal S/S brackets for the clocks that simply fitted underneath the fork top nuts. They did the job perfectly well and are still serving on the bike 50 years later. Maybe they or something similar are still available?


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Re: Veglia revcounter bracket

Postby Dave354 » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:05 pm

Thank you all for your thoughts. I think I am just after the look rather than originality. I was impressed as a teenager in the late 70s when I met a couple of Geordie lads both with Ducati singles. Both were 250s with single imola seat, clip ons, rear sets and big white faced Veglia tacho…. I always wanted one myself and I’m still trying!
I think I will try to fabricate one….. As Nigel says it’s the joy in the making….
Best regards.

Dave
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Re: Veglia revcounter bracket

Postby blethermaskite » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:52 pm

That's the spirit! I made one for my fake Mach1 30 odd years ago.......piece of flat steel sheet with the edge hammered up over the end of a three inch bit of steel bar, then I am pretty sure I made the the taper cone part out of a kitchen coffee/sugar/tea type container, then got a mate to tack weld the two sections together, once painted silver grey I doubt anyone could tell it wasn't the real thing, and it cost nothing but a few hours of my own free time, Good luck with your one :)
Cheers,
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Re: Veglia revcounter bracket

Postby Jordan » Mon Jan 16, 2023 1:40 am

Some helpful info on YouTube, "handforming sheet metal".

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Re: Veglia revcounter bracket

Postby themoudie » Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:08 am

Nigel,

I can only offer a shoulder and a peaty malt! ;)

My current "Bete noir!" is the Moto Morini 125H ignition problem. This is the same problem as that discussed, with you, by a man named Leonard, before Xmas. Both of us have been driven to distraction by the failure of the flywheel to cause the trigger coil to advance the ignition spark and nobody from the UK MRC, MMOC Netherland, or ignition/electrickery world has been able to come up with a solution. I'm considering a small Ducati engine or alternative could be made to fit. Or, maybe even a stink wheel! :shock:
THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE YOUR DIVERSION. :twisted:

With a dodgy piriformis grabbing my sciatic nerve, workshop time has been short and I need to get out there. :evil:

Good health to you both for 2023.

Bill

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Re: Veglia revcounter bracket

Postby Jordan » Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:20 pm

The pickup on Morini uses an inductive coil I think.
As the induced waveform may not be symmetrical, try swapping the two wires.


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